Ron Paul Tells Reporters He Is Suspicious About Results Of GOP Caucuses

Steve Watson
March 12, 2012

In a conversation with reporters in Missouri this weekend, GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul said that he and his supporters were suspicious about the outcomes of several caucuses because the crowds and volumes of support have been much bigger for him than for any other candidate.

“Quite frankly I don’t think the other candidates get crowds like this, and we get them constantly” Paul said, after he had spoken to yet another crowd of over 2500 supporters in Missouri.

“You would get the perception that we would be getting a lot more votes.” He added.

“Sometimes we get thousands of people like this and we’ll take them to the polling booth, yet we won’t win the caucus.” Paul said, adding “A lot of our supporters are very suspicious about it.”

When informed that Santorum had won the Kansas caucuses, Paul admitted that he had not seen the numbers on it at that point but again reiterated his point, stating:

“That reminds me of a picture I just looked at. I had four thousand people and he had a hundred and fifty. So who knows.”

The picture, below, shows a huge turn out at a Kansas town hall meeting for Paul this weekend, compared to virtually nobody showing at Santorum’s event.


The Congressman admitted he could not elaborate on his suspicions but commented “It’s just instinct and hearsay stories, verbal stories that you hear and the kind of things that we heard about up in Maine.”

“They said we can’t have a recount because they just write these numbers down on pieces of paper and then throw them away afterwards. So it’s that kind of stuff that makes you suspicious.” Paul urged.

As we previously reported, evidence of possible vote fraud has been uncovered in Maine, where several towns and counties that Ron Paul won were omitted from the final state count for no identifiable reason.

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Steve Watson is the London based writer and editor for Alex Jones’, and He has a Masters Degree in International Relations from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham in England.

Rep. Ron Paul won his first victory of the Republican primary season over the weekend, but fell short in several tests of his delegate-hoarding strategy, and the candidate himself hinted to reporters that he is “suspicious” of fraud in some of the vote-counting.

The Texas congressman won the popular vote in the U.S. Virgin Islands, nipping former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and notching his first win. But Mr. Romney bested him in the delegate count, 7-to-1, according to the local GOP.

And in Wyoming, Mr. Paul had won 21 percent of the vote among caucus-goers last month, but on Saturday, when the delegates elected at those caucuses met to divide up the final tally of delegates to the national convention, Mr. Paul’s team walked way with just one of the 12 slots available.

Mr. Paul has largely avoided popular-vote primaries and instead banked on caucuses to try to win delegates. In many of those states, he has come in second or third in actual voting at the precinct level, but has predicted he would end up with the most delegates because his supporters were more committed to showing up at county and state conventions.

“The delegate hunt is on,” he told reporters as he campaigned over the weekend.

Local party officials say his team is making extensive efforts to win over undecided delegates at county and state conventions, and is pushing his own committed supporters to show up as the process plays out.

In Iowa this weekend, where delegates elected at the Jan. 3 precinct caucuses met at county-level conventions, Paul supporters regularly clashed with GOP officials over the right to be seated or to try to change procedures.

Mr. Paul, making his second run for the Republican nomination, has improved his vote total over 2008 in every state so far except for Idaho, which switched from a primary to a caucus, depressing turnout for all the candidates.

But he trails rivals Mr. Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich in every delegate count so far, including the Republican National Committee’s official “pledged delegate” count released last week.

Judging by the crowds that are turning out for his rallies, he should be doing even better.

In Idaho, where the Paul campaign claims more than 12,000 people turned out to their rallies in February and March, he won only slightly more than 8,000 votes in the state’s caucuses last week.

That same pattern played out in caucuses ranging from Colorado to Minnesota to Washington state, where his campaign said his six rallies drew more than 7,250 people, accounting for more than half of the nearly 12,600 votes he ended up garnering.

Speaking to reporters in Missouri this weekend, Mr. Paul struggled for an explanation.

“Sometimes we get thousands of people like this, and we’ll take them to the polling booth, and we won’t win the caucuses,” he said. “A lot of our supporters are very suspicious about it.”

He said he doesn’t have proof of actual fraud, but said it’s a possible explanation.
“It’s that kind of stuff that makes you suspicious, because quite frankly, I don’t think the other candidates are getting crowds like this,” he said.

Mr. Paul’s campaign promised another “massive town hall” in Illinois on Wednesday at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Many of his biggest events have been associated with colleges.
I Survived a GOP Convention

by Ryan McMaken
by Ryan McMaken


Back in the days when I was politically active, I attended a GOP election party with my wife. Someone at the party had rented out a hotel ballroom, and after the polls closed a couple hundred of us milled about and watched as the returns came in. Big television screens were tuned to various news channels. People cheered when Republicans did well and booed when Democrats did well. The primary function of this event, however, seemed to be to offer a chance for Republican true believers to feel safe among their own kind.

My wife said “this is the largest support group I have ever attended.” And that is what it was.

I was reminded of this little episode repeatedly when I attended the Colorado GOP convention as a delegate in late May. I prepared for the event the same way one might prepare for a sentencing following a murder conviction. I told myself repeatedly it might not be that bad, and at the very least, I would leave with some information, probably unpleasant, that I didn’t have before.

I certainly had not campaigned to be a delegate. It turns out, much to my surprise, that my GOP membership had never lapsed, and the Ron Paul voting bloc was just so well organized that they managed to elect me as one of many Ron Paul delegates to both the local congressional district convention and the statewide convention. They did this with precious little help from me.

This is why I forced myself to attend both conventions and to vote with the Paul bloc. I’d rather submit to enhanced interrogation than attend a rally or wave a sign or hoot and holler in favor of a political candidate, but the Ron Paul people were so committed to offering an alternative to McCain, the worst GOP nominee in decades, that I had to go and do their bidding.

Unfortunately, the experience would turn out to be what will no doubt prove to be an excellent preview of what awaits all Ron Paul delegates who managed to win seats at the national convention. Make no mistake about it. The national convention will be nothing other than a coronation of the nominee approved by the party leadership. Floor fights or platform debates or dissent of any kind have not been seen at national conventions since the days of yore, and no one in the party with power has any desire to bring such things back.

Locally, things are no different. The convention for the congressional district here was certainly a lesson in authoritarianism. The meeting was chaired with an iron fist by some wizened old lawyer who shouted down anyone who dared say anything in favor of Paul. The other members of the central committee dutifully took dictation.

The 1st CD always votes for Democrats, so the matter of who runs for the seat is of no global importance. As it happened, however, a person named George Lilly, a Ron Paul supporter, had managed to position himself as the presumptive nominee for the race. Yet, the McCain supporters were so vexed by this, that they recruited a homeless man to run against Lilly. I’m not exaggerating. The guy’s address is a homeless shelter.

In spite of the fact that the homeless guy swore that “I understand the global economy completely,” I remained unconvinced and voted for the guy with a house. The rest of the meeting was cliché as far as Ron Paul stories go. One of the Paul supporters was thrown out based solely on the chairman’s whims, and many others were harangued from the podium.

As you can imagine, dear reader, my enthusiasm for attending the state convention was much diminished by the district convention. Yet I pressed on, getting up early on a Saturday to eat six dollar scones and drink bad coffee at the local suburban convention center.

As I arrived, it became clear that both the Ron Paul supporters and the McCain supporters had done their homework and organized themselves into slates of delegates for the national convention.

The Ron Paul supporters had managed to garner quite a bit of success early on by employing more sophisticated tactics than the McCain people. At county and district conventions, the Paul supporters had run as slates of delegates in order to concentrate their votes. At some of the later district conventions and at the state convention, the McCain people had caught on to this, and had organized themselves into ominously titled “Unity” slates.

The party had also recently taken steps to require delegates to disclose their preferred presidential candidate, so by the state convention, the old Paulist tactic of simply stating one’s position (“I’m pro-life, anti-tax, pro-gun,” for example) while running for delegate slots no longer worked.

So, by the state convention, which delegates supported whom had all become quite obvious, and it had all come down to the Ron Paul slate and the Unity slate. At this point, defeat of the Ron Paul slate was pretty much a fait accompli. While the Ron Paul delegates made up perhaps a third of the delegation at the state convention, they certainly lacked the votes to elect their slates or overturn the meeting agenda which had been carefully planned and rushed through by the state’s central committee.

Indeed, according to his more active supporters, Ron Paul had offered to speak at the convention, but was curtly denied by the state chairman. Paul supporters were also denied any opportunity to say even one word from the podium in favor of Paul’s candidacy.

The convention was undoubtedly a valuable education for those who still naïvely think that political parties are run like democracies. The struggle within the Democratic Party between Obama and Clinton this year should make that obvious, as should the treatment Paul received at the hands of GOP party leadership regardless of his substantial support among the rank and file.

In modern America, party conventions exist far more as political rallies for the candidate the party leadership has approved, rather than as mechanisms for choosing candidates.

The state convention here was no different as within minutes the event quickly degenerated into a series of doctrinaire short films espousing the unmitigated greatness of the GOP candidates and various other personages who had won the favor of the party’s central committees. There were also lots of videos of waving American flags, and people driving pickup trucks on dusty country roads, and gray old men chatting in barber shops, and young men wearing military uniforms.

As the warm fuzzies came to an end, the potential delegates lined up to deliver their little 10 second speeches. Most notable here were two veterans: a disabled Iraq veteran and an Afghanistan veteran who were both booed by the crowd for supporting Paul. The sheer amount of venom spewed by the old woman in front of me against the Afghanistan veteran was quite memorable.

And naturally, the crowd cheered loudest after someone held up a “Stop the War” sign. They didn’t cheer for the sign or the sign holder. They cheered when a police officer threw her out of the building.

By the end, the Paul supporters were outvoted and everything returned to normal in the party. No Ron Paul delegates were elected, Mitt Romney gave the keynote address to wild applause, and by the end of the day, the meeting had become what the party had always intended it to be: a support group for fans of John McCain.

We can expect to see much of the same at the convention in September.